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Touval Lysander
Combat Recon Group
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Posted - 2012.09.18 22:13:00 -
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Rath Kelbore wrote:Why is it, in my 4 or so years of EVE, I've yet to be suicide ganked?
I have left freighters floating around on Jita 4-4 for hours due to alt tabbing and forgetting about them. I've done the same thing on gates in pimped out mission ships, and all manner of stupid actions which should have resulted in me being suicide ganked. I feel left out to be honest.
+1
Could be your body odor?
But truly, same here. Never been ganked w/o actually doing something stoopid enough to deserve it.
One thing I NEVER did was fill a freighter with BP's. NEVER. That's what fast frigates MANUALLY FLOWN to the trade hubs are for.
I once stood in the sun for 8 hours without a hat and got so badly sunburnt I spent 5 days in hospital. Damn sun!!
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Touval Lysander
Combat Recon Group
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Posted - 2012.09.18 23:03:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:BillyBanter wrote:The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel. The pilot growing a fully functional brain is a nice enough buff for freighters.
+1
But what freighter pilot with a brain would still be a freighter pilot.
Short history lesson.
In WW2 freighters were sunk in the thousands. Then some bright spark said "let's use escorts". When the escorts got the technique right, less freighters sunk.
After a while the sinkers gave up because their losses were too high.
Aren't we supposed to learn from history? |
Touval Lysander
Combat Recon Group
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Posted - 2012.09.19 00:09:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:BillyBanter wrote:The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel. The pilot growing a fully functional brain is a nice enough buff for freighters. +1 But what freighter pilot with a brain would still be a freighter pilot. Short history lesson. In WW2 freighters were sunk in the thousands. Then some bright spark said "let's use escorts". When the escorts got the technique right, less freighters sunk. After a while the sinkers gave up because their losses were too high. Aren't we supposed to learn from history? One /small/ difference. Escorts could shoot first without being exploded. 
There's no need. Once the sparks fly an escort group can fire at will. Until ~they~ shoot you wouldn't know who to shoot anyway so moot point. |
Touval Lysander
Combat Recon Group
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Posted - 2012.09.19 01:22:00 -
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FluffyDice wrote:Why doesn't the killmail show the contents by the way? I ganked a hauler the other day and the mail for that showed the contents of the wrapping. Are these ones double wrapped or something?
didn't you know, you can buy extra special wrapping from jita local. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.19 07:38:00 -
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Myxx wrote:It is not a 100 percent assured kill. If you know what you're doing and are in your own corporation, there are methods of putting the freighter into warp before they are able to shoot it.
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
10MN Microwarpdrive II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
etc.
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Reminds me of a big freighter evac out of Scalding Pass couple years back. 100+ primary/initiative flying escort trying to get the freighters to a titan 10 jumps out for a bridge - pilot starts screaming he's under attack when blue webs him for speed up.
FC was nervous as it was - that really helped keep everything calm and orderly - NOT 
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Clear coms, CLEAR COMS - where's the reds, where where!!!! I got overview glitch!! Where are they?!??!
[pause]
Wha..... You fn idiot... somebody shoot him ffs. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.20 22:10:00 -
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I had something very clever to post here. Then I looked a few things up, found some facts and realized I was totally wrong.
So I shitcanned it and posted this instead. |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2012.09.20 22:34:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Seminole Sun wrote:Okay... Some terms are getting thrown around and clearly there's some definitional disconnects
Cost = Expense and is NOT the same thing as Risk
Risk = uncertainty Close, but not quite. Cost = cost. Risk = probability +ù cost. Quote:The GANKING aspect of freighter ganking (i.e. blowing the thing up) has no uncertainty (i.e. "risk") on the cost side. GǪwhich means that the risk = cost, since the probability is 1. A 100% certainty does not make it risk-free GÇö quite the opposite: it makes the risk correspond to the full value of the cost. So the ganking is all risk. The reward is also a risk, but with a negative cost, which is added to this base risk. Since the base risk is always more than 0, and the reward can be 0, there is always GÇö unavoidably GÇö risk in a suicide gank. Quote:What IS risky is the payoff. Absolutely. Both Malphilos and I concede that. But it doesn't change the equation on the cost side of things which is fixed with no "risk" associated with it. GǪexcept that the cost side is all risk, because that's how risk is defined.
Nothing like breaking down a plain old gank into demonstrations of numeracy and literary prowess is there?
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2012.09.20 23:20:00 -
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20 pages on someone got GANKED in Eve...
inkredibull. |
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